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The city of Morgan Hill, CA, lost internet, ATM network, cell service, landline telephone service, 911 service, private networks, the hospital network, fire and burglar alarms, and critical infrastructure monitoring in a matter of moments. How? Four manholes were opened, and eight fiber cables were cut.

They don't know who did it, or why.

http://perens.com/works/articles/MorganHill/

This one gives me chills. I suspect it's a test run.

on 2009-04-23 02:24 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] theweary.livejournal.com
WOW!!! that's scary stuff.. very scary.

on 2009-04-23 02:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
yeah. way to go hams though!

on 2009-04-23 02:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dampscribbler.livejournal.com
Wow. I wonder how many cities are even aware of this news?

on 2009-04-23 02:34 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
Given that it happened weeks ago, and nobody I know even heard about it, I'd say not many.

on 2009-04-23 03:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dampscribbler.livejournal.com
This looks to be a roundup of the relevant coverage -- dangerously under-reported, IMO.

http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=1328166061

on 2009-04-23 03:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
well, at least it was reported some. A couple hundred articles isn't exactly nothing.

on 2009-04-23 04:30 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] dampscribbler.livejournal.com
Yeah, but the coverage was brief (how cool is that graph on the right?) Probably there's some motivation to limit coverage in order to prevent copycats, but still it makes you wonder how seriously this kind of threat will be attended to by other cities. I hope it's made the rounds in state and city governments.

on 2009-04-23 02:47 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gillyg.livejournal.com
That is terrifying.

on 2009-04-23 03:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
Yeah. It's too easy.

on 2009-04-23 02:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] theldara.livejournal.com
Our infrastructure is an absolute mess. This really is only the beginning. Nobody seems to want to throw money at fixing this huge gaping security hole that a 5 year old could understand as being a huge problem. They're too busy poking women's boobs at airports.

on 2009-04-23 03:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
True, but moreover, freakin lol.

I'd also submit the southern border is a huge problem that would seem obvious to fix, but yet noone does. How many millions of people come in that we don't know about?

on 2009-04-23 03:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] albinohognose.livejournal.com
"They're too busy poking women's boobs at airports."


Sounds like a good job, why give it up??? :P

on 2009-04-23 03:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
I'd do all the overtime they'd give me.

on 2009-04-23 03:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] theldara.livejournal.com
Damn it's hard to find more articles on this... it did happen, and somehow it's effectively being kept quiet.

Here's a more detailed one I found:
http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_12106301

on 2009-04-23 03:22 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
Thanks for that. I thought this sentence was interesting...

"Crews ... a few feet from a sign that said in red letters, "Warning: Buried Fiber Optic Cable in This Vicinity. Call Before You Dig."

Like a big red sign that says "screw with the infrastructure right here", eh? But what else can you do? Otherwise some fool would dig right through it.

And this is just sad...

"AT&T spokesman... said one of the company's fundamental security measures was obviously breached. "One of them is to have those big, heavy covers over the manholes and special ways to get them off," Britton said. "There's a tool you use." "

Uh, "they're heavy and require a crowbar to move" doesn't count as a security measure.

on 2009-04-23 03:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] theldara.livejournal.com
You'd think they'd have realized that when there was that huge rash of folks stealing man hole covers to have them melted down for cash. Even a town as small as Kingsport had a huge problem with that just a year or two ago.

And yea, the big "HEY BAD GUYS, CUT HERE" signs are not particularly helpful to security. I don't know a good way to prevent that either, unfortunately... though perhaps something as simple as burying the real cable a foot or two under a dummy cable would suffice, but that'd count on the work crews keeping their mouths shut and that's not likely.

on 2009-04-23 03:54 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
I guess just don't mark it. Construction companies would have to contact the municipality and have to show id to view the maps that show locations. Pain in the butt though.

I can't think of a good way to lock the manholes though. Maybe alarm them. Yeah, that is easy. *rolls eyes*

on 2009-04-24 11:14 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] cheeze.livejournal.com
thing is, most people are too dumb or uninformed to realize that damaging fiber optic cables is going to fuck up that much stuff. generally, the people who are informed enough to know are also resourceful enough to get around security measures that might actually be implemented.

on 2009-04-23 05:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] ruethee.livejournal.com
That wasn't that far away from me. I heard some mumblings about disgruntled workers because it was just after some negotiations sided with the company, not the workers.
Mac, who died working for SBC on the job, talked about them doing this 6-7 years ago. I don't think it was terrorists, but it sure shows people what bad can happen if communication collapses. I'm not looking forward to this inevitable societal collapse.

on 2009-04-23 07:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] misterx.livejournal.com
It also makes it rather obvious that we've got too many eggs in one basket.

on 2009-04-25 07:19 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] evilbeth.livejournal.com
Being one of the folks in charge of communications for several of the hospitals in town, the horrifies me. And makes me damn glad I have the home number of the coordinator of the local ham radio club on speed dial at work. Of course, without phones, that wouldn't help me much.

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